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Bwana Bubba’s 2013 Oregon 615 Willamette Deer Hunt

Before reading this story, I have been told I should have let this buck go another year.  I thought about it strongly!  One never knows if they get to hunt private land each year.  I have been lucky to be able to hunt this land for 4 years.  Another Vietnam Veteran owns the land and I know how he feels when he is in the bush here.   The buck had bred for two years!  He had a gross rough score of 123″.   One can not harvest Boone & Crockett every time in rural America!  Frank Biggs

Hunting success is a matter of timing in movement & being somewhere at the correct time!

A picture of Even 3 X 3 on the western sector of the property!
A picture of Even 3 X 3 on the western sector of the property!

Most stories have more than one part, so naturally this story will also.

My son made a comment to me while he was raising the deer up in the tree with his truck winch.  “Dad how come you always kill something when I am not with you?”  Take time to think about that for a while!

Many of my readers have known that I have been in pursuit of one particular Columbia Blacktail buck that has been named the Even 3 X 3.  Over the last two (2) years I have tried to harvest him via my Martin Onza 3 bow.  First year 2012 I had him near my tree stand and made a terrible mistake when I setup the tree stand with the help of Mark and my son JR.!  It was setup right- handed with no thought about it, and since I am left-handed, plus the fact of staging the deer right to left it created problems in a tight area in the treestand.    Excuses? Yes! But Real!

A short video in early summer of Even 3 X 3 using the same route!

In a previous story during the 2013 regular archery season, opportunity for Even 3 X 3 on opening day was there, yet wasn’t due to a subliminal message not to setup on the Even 3 X 3 at 42 yards.   He surely would have gone down with the shot if I had taken it.   I would have been selfish to say the least, with JR. having 5 bucks at a less than 5-6 yards from his ground blind.  Thus Jr. harvested his first archery Blacktail buck deer!  One of the finest shots I must say as he had the Even 3 X 3 with a pin on his boiler room and moved to the other buck!  Why you ask?  He knew that Even 3 x 3 was my target buck.  This says a lot about my son and his relationship to me!

 

This was taken in the draw on 11-10-2013  at 1038.  Last time he was caught on a trail cam!
This was taken in the draw on 11-10-2013 at 1038. Last time he was caught on a trail cam!

Even 3 x 3 had not been seen by humans since August 24th of the opening morning hunt, he and the other entire local branch bucks disappeared from the area.   It should be noted that he had only come into the trail cams 3 times in a three month period.   Each time was during the wee hours of the AM time zone.  He would not hang around long near the Cam areas, with few pictures.

JR. and myself went looking for the Even 3 X 3 during the regular archery season, but only saw glimpses of a couple of spikes and one other deer a 4 X 3 with a single eyeguard.  This particular buck and his brother another 4 X 3 with two Eyeguards had shown up twice on draw trail camera from July to August.   All of sudden about two weeks into the archery season single eyeguard showed up twice, once with JR. and he was unable to get a shot on him.    The following evening hunting by myself the buck was on the exact path I had seen him the evening prior.  I was not expecting him and I felt there was something there.  I was on my ass watching another opening in the timber, not aware that he was working in on me.  I get a glance of him at about 50 yards head down.   In one fluid motion I swung around to the kneeling position and pulled up on with the 40 yard single pin on my H.H.A. Sports Optimizer and the Martin Onza 3 bow.   I release and he never knew what or who had hit him.  He went down in the spot he was standing and kicked for only moments with the heart shot.   JR. as usual was very quick to come out to the place and help Hawaiian quarter the buck.

Let’s get back to the story of taking down the Even 3 X 3 buck that I have had an obsession with for two years.

The Ford Escape was maneuvering around the frozen over potholes on the access road to the vineyard, trying not to make so much noise.  My intention before going to work was to reset the trail cams and put in new batteries.  I figured at 0830 there would be nothing moving and I could get the job done in about 10 minutes and get to work and not be the last one there.   Rifle and cameras are all in the back of the rig.

This was taken in August just before opening archery season!
This was taken in August just before opening archery season!

Just to keep things straight I had an Oregon 615 Willamette Deer tag, which is an anything; goes tag from September 1st until February 28th 2014.  This allowed me two deer in the 2013 year with an Oregon archery deer tag and the Oregon 615 deer tag.  I of course wanted to harvest another buck with the Martin Onza 3, but un-expected things happen once in a while.

As I was avoiding the frozen potholes in the gravel road, I see to my right at approximately 150 yards a big buck trotting across the open grass area that lies between the vineyard and the forest.   I wasn’t going fast, so I came to a stop, put the gear lever in park, open the door and leaving it open moved without  losing concentration on getting to the back of the Escape and opening the rear hatch.   Hatch open, I un-zipped the case, slipped out the Weatherby 257 mag., jacked a round into the camber, jumped into the ditch and then atop the blackberry berm.   Trying to find the buck in the timber, I could see movement, but when I first pulled up on the movement, I could not see well enough as I had my sunglasses on.  Quickly they were pushed up on my head and I could see that buck moving from behind a large Douglas Fir tree finally, then he stopped by another Douglas Fir tree in the mist of blackberries!  In one quick movement I pulled down on him with the crosshairs solidly coming to rest on the boiler room, I pulled the trigger (I had been on the ready).  To my surprise the buck dropped in his tracks with no movement. I was using a 120 grain Barnes X bullet hand load!   “Crap I’ve gone and done it!”  The distance to the buck was at about 275 yards + or minus 10 yards.   Not a bad offhand shot freestyle, reminds me of the days of shooting competition in high school.    The buck was the Even 3 X 3 and I knew that mentally when I saw him at 150 yards in first sight, the only buck on the place with a light color rack.

What is really IRONIC about a new mystery is I put that single 120gr. Barnes X (Vintage of the year 2000) into the chamber, with 100 gr. Hornady Weatherby factory loads in the magazine (Jr. buys factory).   I have yet to find any of the remaining Barnes hand loads!  I switched to Barnes Bullet in 1998 and the first time out, I shot a Mulie at around 650 yards and he dropped in his tracks!  In the same year I shot a Bull elk at 1000 yards and it dropped in it’s tracks.  A believer!

Minutes after putting him down.  I did move him out of the blackberries to take the  picture.
Minutes after putting him down. I did move him out of the blackberries to take the picture.

Note:  I am a firm believer in not shooting off-hand unless I have too.   I have a bi-pod on all my rifles when I take them in the field, which these days is not often.    Tree limbs work great when the opportunity arises or going to the sitting position.

Note: This 257 Weatherby MK 5 rifle (Left-Handed) that has not been shot at game for over 10 years.  It had always been a tack drive of a rifle since 1983 when I got it from Gene Ramsey, who bought it from me while I had the Burns Bros., Sportsmen’s Center on Grand Ave., in Portland, OR.   A great time to be a Weatherby dealer in the days of Harry Bane and Roy Weatherby himself!

Again JR. would come to help with the quartering of the deer!  This time he wanted to do old school and gut and take in whole!  Jr. said to me “Dad that is more than 300 yards”, Frankie we will keep it at 275 yards.

This leads to me to the first comment that JR. made in the story!   Many times when the mentor is hunting with the underscore we are not there for personal gain.   Our thoughts are on helping others get it done.  We react differently when by ourselves while hunting or any other activity.   We react to the situation without thought when alone.   Most season veterans have already gone through the process of saying “I saw four 6 X 6 bulls moving on the hillside”, without taking a shot.   This comes with only experience in the field in any hobby! I like to think I am in combat mode!   “Timing and Time are Limited!”

What is great about my Weatherbys' that I have, whenever I have used one, they have always performed.  If I miss, it is me and not the rifle or bow!
What is great about my Weatherbys’ that I have, whenever I have used one, they have always performed. If I miss, it is me and not the rifle or bow!

One has to react to the situation in the moment with knowing it is right!  React with no hesitation!  Never take too long to setup a shot, as WILD Game waits for no one!  Most deer don’t wait for one to setup the sticks!

Meat was dropped off at:  Sausage Kitchen – McLoughlin Blvd

On never knows the full movement of game!
On never knows the full movement of game!

Bwana Bubba

Cathedral Rock Access Debated – By Dylan Darling – Bend Bulletin

Frank,
Here’s my story.
Dylan
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Cathedral Rock access debated • Backers aim to open up the John Day; critics say the plan hampers non-floaters…

By Dylan J. Darling / The Bulletin The question surrounding the proposed Cathedral Rock and Horse Heaven Wilderness Area Act is clear on a map. Just west of the planned 8,686-acre Cathedral Rock Wilderness Area runs Muddy Creek Road, a dusty and bumpy Jefferson County byway. The right angles of the proposed public land boundary mimic the curves of the old road, leaving a ribbon of private land between the public road and the wilderness. Supporters of the federal-for-private land swap that would make Cathedral Rock a reality say the buffer benefits the public and wildlife, creating a wilderness focused on access from the John Day River. Critics of the plan say it makes access difficult for members of the public who would recreate on public land, particularly hikers and hunters. “One of the major goals is to expand the amount of public ownership along the (John Day River),” said Brent Fenty, executive director for the Bend-based Oregon Natural Desert Association. The group has been working with the private landowners and advocating for the wilderness designation for more than three years. He said the plan would make public a four-mile stretch of the river, adding about a dozen campsites for rafters on an increasingly popular run. While the river would provide a route into the wilderness, it wouldn’t be an easy one, said former Madras mayor Rick Allen. He said anyone looking to hunt or hike the land would have to first float the river unless they had permission from the landowners to cross the private land between the road and wilderness. “I don’t understand why anyone would be supporting this,” he said. Wilderness push Sens. Ron Wyden, and Jeff Merkley, Oregon Democrats, are co-sponsors of the Cathedral Rock and Horse Heaven Wilderness Act, which could be lumped together in an omnibus bill for congressional approval with two dozen other wilderness bills spread around 12 states. The Campaign for America’s Wilderness, a program of the Washington-based Pew Environmental Group, called for combining the separate bills into an omnibus bill in November newspaper ads. While he had heard the question about access before, David Dreher, manager for the Pew Campaign for America’s Wilderness, said Cathedral Rock would be a part of the omnibus. “It would be a great win for Central Oregon,” Dreher said. The bill has not been introduced in Congress, which has about a week left in its session, he said. The 112th Congress could be only the second Congress to designate no new wilderness areas since the 1964 Wilderness Act established the process. The 113th Congress is seated in January. Spokespeople for the two Oregon senators said they also are aware of the concerns about access, particularly from elected leaders in Jefferson County, but they still support the plan. “(Sen. Wyden) believes it addresses multiple land ownership challenges presented by the current checkerboard while giving the public more access than it currently has now without the problem of trespassing on private land,” wrote Tom Towslee, Wyden’s spokesman in Oregon, in an email. The Cathedral Rock segment would be named after a rock along the John Day River, and the Horse Heaven segment would be named after a mountain. Both of the geological features would be in the new wilderness. Merkley’s spokeswoman expressed qualms about the access issue. “Senator Merkley believes the proposed Horse Heaven and Cathedral Rock wilderness area has numerous merits, including improved road access to Horse Heaven, and he continues to support the proposal,” wrote Courtney Warner Crowell, his deputy communications director. “He does believe, however, that legitimate concerns have been raised about public road access to the Cathedral Rock portion and that it would be to considerable public benefit if this concern could be addressed.” Trespassing and poaching On the map, private land surrounds pockets of public acres close to Muddy Creek Road. The situation leads to trespassing and poaching issues, said Fenty, of the Oregon Natural Desert Association. Young Life, a Colorado Springs, Colo.,-based Christian group that runs a camp that draws thousands of middle and high school students each summer, owns most of the private acres involved in the swap. Fenty said it has felt the brunt of the trespassing and poaching problems along Muddy Creek Road. Allen said Young Life would be giving up 8,000 acres, including the riverfront land, in exchange for about 12,000 acres overseen by the Bureau of Land Management. Two other landowners would be involved in the exchanges, which would lead to about 18,000 acres of new wilderness. The Young Life camp, the Washington Family Ranch, is the former compound of the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh and was once known as Rancho Rajneesh or Rajneeshpuram. An Indian guru, Rajneesh ran the commune in the 1980s before his followers were caught poisoning salad bars in The Dalles and plotting to kill local and state officials. He was eventually deported. Most of the public land around Muddy Creek Road is surrounded by Young Life property. “As the land is currently configured, it is not accessible and usable by the public,” Fenty said. Young Life officials directed calls to Rich Ellerd, ranch manager, who did not return messages left Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday by The Bulletin. Craig Kilpatrick, land use consultant for Washington Family Ranch, in an email response to questions posed by The Bulletin, stated that creating two wilderness areas would bring “greater legal public access than now exists.” Consolidating private holdings presents opportunities for “workable land management” with clearly defined borders for rangeland, agricultural and recreational uses, he wrote. Kilpatrick pointed out that numerous conservation, wildlife advocacy and hunting organizations have endorsed the wilderness bill, including Oregon Wild, the Sierra Club and Trout Unlimited, to name a few. An original wilderness proposal, called Coffin Rock, included a parking area on Muddy Creek Road adjacent to Cherry Creek Ranch, Kilpatrick explained. During negotiations that redefined the wilderness into Cathedral Rock, Cherry Creek’s owners became concerned about public access near the century-old ranch headquarters building, he wrote. Cherry Creek and Young Life representatives were concerned, as well, that those property owners would bear the responsibility for rescuing lost or injured visitors along the unimproved Muddy Creek Road, he wrote. The Cathedral Rock portion of the wilderness proposal would only be accessed by the river. Fenty was quick to point out that the 9,200-acre Horse Heaven portion would be accessible by two roads. Pulled support The Jefferson County Board of Commissioners supported the original proposal for the wilderness, with access off Muddy Creek Road. The commission pulled its support in October 2011. Commissioner Mike Ahern said the current plan would make a wilderness that was a “private little playground” for the landowners along the road while the public would be relegated to floating by it on the river and then hiking out of the river canyon. He doubts that the lawmakers in Washington, D.C., are hearing their complaints, though. “I think the train has left the station,” he said. “I think we are going to get screwed on it.” Matt Smith, manager of the Cherry Creek Ranch, said the access issue is overblown; state hunting tag restrictions would limit use of the private land and hunting in the new wilderness. “There should be no controversy here,” he said. The Cherry Creek Ranch is one of the three private landowners involved in the proposal. Smith said it opposed a prior plan for a parking lot along Muddy Creek Road because the lot would have been close to the ranch headquarters, and visitors would have come right through the property. “You literally can bump your side-view mirror on our barn,” he said. He said the landowners tried to put together a plan for access off the road involving seasonal closures, but the county commissioners rejected the notion. Kilpatrick wrote that Cherry Creek and Young Life proposed gate access and seasonal closures that the commissioners endorsed, a position that changed after four public hearings in which local residents sounded their opposition. Now the landowners are only interested in entering into the swap with the federal government, Smith said, because of the limited access to the wilderness area that could stem trespassing and poaching along Muddy Creek Road. He said chances to preserve parcels like the land around Cathedral Rock don’t come along often, and it could slip away. “It would really be a shame to see such a solid deal, such a solid package as this, to go by,” Smith said. —

Reporter: 541-617-7812, ddarling@bendbulletin.com —— From bendbulletin.com – published daily in Bend, Oregon, by Western Communications, Inc. Copyright 2005.

Snake River Elk Hunting – Oregon

Hunting the Snake River Canyon in N.E. Oregon is for those than can shoot!

I almost lost one of horses on the pack-out and had Czar #1 Horse go down in the timber while trying to get to the elk for pack-out!

Years ago I loved to hunt for elk in the Snake River Canyon.   I had a couple of horses that were for great riding and as pack horses.   It was nothing to see bulls at long range during the season and try to find a way to get to them or shot long range shots.

The picture in this post, was one of those long range shots.  I wish that I had more pictures, but can’t find them.   I had hunted the year before and missed a big bull as I hastily taken the shot without getting setup properly.

I had trade hunting spots with a fellow named Randy Krupe.  He wanted a place to hunt in the Steens Mountains and I wanted I wanted one of his elk the hot-spots.  So I got the hot-spot near Tee-Pee Springs in the lower part of the Snake River.

I had found a great observation spot to glass for elk.  This spot I had found the year before and I knew I would have to hustle to get this shooting rock and got there about an hour before first light.

As usual when dawn is breaking and your sitting there waiting, you have tendency to fall asleep as the temperature drops.  Kinda weird how this happens!  I had spotted a couple elk prior to this, but they were cows on the move.  I told myself as I slapped myself that I could not fall asleep and not get the first lick in.   Well this did payoff, but barely.

About a 1000 yards off, or three ridges off in the distance, I see the flash of horn.  I quickly use the spotting scope and could see a branched bull.   He is broadside in a down timber patch.   I said to myself what the heck, I can’t kill him if you don’t take the shot.  After the first shot, the bull turns and heads uphill and stops standing straight away from me.   I figure at this time I need to aim between the horns and hold about 48 high or so.   There was no wind and I had a great rest.  I also know that my 340 Weatherby with the 210gr. Nosler would get there.   I love this caliber for long range shots on elk.  The Snake River Canyon is known for having to shoot cross canyon! At the sound of the shot, the bull was no longer standing.   As the distance was great and I did lose sight of the bull.  I felt that I had hit him and I would need to work my way over there.  It took about 40 minutes to hit a game trail that would allow me to get into the patch.   As I approached the area and was about 150 yards away I could see the bull bedded on the steep hillside in the down timber.

This was my first branch bull, that formed the path to bigger bull!

The bull’s head was up, but he could clearly see me, but wasn’t getting up.  I was able to get a clear shot and put him down the rest of the way.  Under inspection, I found my original bull hole in the neck.  It had touched the just about everything in the neck.

Getting the bull out is another story about working my old horse Czar and almost losing my other horse on the pack-out.

P.S. There were 13 of us in an Elk Pool, with 20 bucks a head!  It was based on points and not B & C Scoring.  It was my lucky day!

Cobra

William L. Biggs U.S.Navy Korean War – DAD

Do sons give credit to their dad’s for the paths they take in life?

While my father is still alive, I thought I should write things about him that is important to me over the years! First off, this is a young man back in about 1953 that takes on a ready made family. I was about 3 and my brother Steve was about 2 when Bill Biggs met Barbara Trumble, a widower at a very young age. Our natural father died in the Columbia River going back to the ship in an automobile accident in 1952.

It is funny how one as they gets older have total recall on the past, yet can’t remember where they put their truck keys, guess that is why most of us have a special draw or bowl for short term memory!

Having not known my natural father that I can remember at he was a Merchant Marine, Bill Biggs aka Dad from here out in this writing took us boys as his own. As I look over the years I would have to say it was that way and we always looked to him as Dad. No I never called him daddy, just dad! He was in the U.S. Navy for a number of years and this I can remember, so it was for some years forward to about the age of 6 for me. He served during the Korean War as a Navy Radar Man, in those days they would have to write backwards on a see through board so the CO and XO see what was going on in the Command Center. When he wrote is was always in printing and never script. His A’s were always flat on top!

I know we lived in Astoria, Oregon up on top of the hill while station aboard the U.S.S. Oriskany he was on was station at the once famous Tongue Point at Astoria,OR. I know that he never caught sneaking out of my bedroom window and going to the outside refrigerator to just crack open the Coke bottles and sip a little pop. I made sure they were all at the same level, each and every bottle!

 

CVA-34 Known as the Big O!

Later Dad was stationed at Alameda,CA as the ship he was on the U.S.S. Oriskany, a famous aircraft carrier that was used even in the Vietnam War. The circle of that ship is pretty small, for as a kid in Tongue Point, I was able to go aboard the ship. Later while I was stationed in the Philippines  in 1970, I did Comms with the COMSEC team aboard the ship. I had a chance to go aboard the ship TAD, but chose Vietnam with the 5th Marines instead! My brother Steve was over in Vietnam at Yankee Station aboard the U.S.S. Coontz DLG9, running cover for the U.S.S. Oriskany in the battle group. Steve was there when the Oriskany had a major fire aboard the top deck! You could see the fire from more 18 miles away with the naked eye! Glad I was not aboard!

My dad was of Danish & American Indian ancestry and was a statue of a man with broad shoulders, tall, lean and jet black hair with green-blue eyes. In the old days out at Janzten Beach there was a swimming area with high dives. One that was brave could got to the high dive and actually dive into the Columbia River. I still remember as a kid, him doing that in a Swan Dive and having perfect entrance into the river. One would have thought that John Weissmuller was diving into a lagoon.

Now getting to the future with Dad! I remember his hunting trips with Uncle Dave and when he bought the Mannlicher Schoenauer in 30-06, from the once famous Foster Sporting Goods in Portland, OR.  He and Uncle Dave bought one each. Over the years, which are many times, I have given a bad him time about not getting that rifle. The truth is Dad it was more of a jest, as that darn thing is right handed and has such a high comb, it would definitely beat me up. I would hope that Dad did give some hunting or sporting thoughts to my sister’s son Michael and pass it along to him. That rifle can not ever be replaced in the 21st Century!

I remember a Bobcat skin that I had in my room that Dad had shot as a young man on the Feather River outside of Sacramento, California as a young man. He was riding on the fender of an old pickup and killed the Bobcat with a 22 rifle. He was a crack shot.

There are a couple of short stories as a teenager that I could have gotten into trouble, but Dad was pretty cool about it. When I got to go on my first Goose hunt to Summer Lake in Oregon, I remember being on a dike in the middle of Summer Lake. I had 5 boxes of shotgun shells and shot every one of the shells. When I got back to Dad and his hunting partner, with no birds or shells, he asked me “what were you doing”, as they had a stack of Snow Geese on the ground. I told them, I shot at every goose and duck that flew over me and none fell out of the sky. He just shook his head, and later at Sauvies Island, I learned how to lead a bird! Shooting targets with a 22, I never had to lead!

Another time while I was still at home before going in the Navy, I would have to be at work at 1:00PM, but would get up at 0300 and if not caught going out the door I would head over to the Deschutes River at Warm Springs to fish for Redsides. If caught by mom I would have to back upstairs and get up at 0600 and fish for hatchery fish on the Clackamas River. I would race over to the Deschutes in my 54 Ford at 4000 RPM; it would take me an hour and 15 minutes to get there. Never got a ticket once going there. Anyway this particular day I did not have work, so I got back at about 1700 Hour and had the Redsides in the kitchen sink and Dad got home and looked in the sink. “Son those don’t look like Clackamas River trout” With a smile he turned and went into the living room with a cup of Coffee!

When High School, I was going to Benson and I was on a rifle team with my cousins with Lucky 22’s. They all had 22 target rifles and I did not have one. My dad talked my mom into getting a German made Anchutz 22LR Target Rifle in left-handed for me at Meyer & Franks’, yep in those days they sold rifles. It was a really big deal to get this rifle and not have to borrow one. Later they both allowed me to switch from Benson Polytechnic and go to Franklin H.S. so I could shoot on their rifle team. He put up with my political fight with the school district to make it a Varsity Sport, which happened after my senior year!

There is a lot that I remember about Dad over the years, like the time while I was in Vietnam he sends me a picture of a Boone & Crockett Canadian Moose he killed up near Fort St. Johns in B.C. That picture was pretty famous with my Marine counter parts.

When I got back from over seas, we hunted a number of years together for Blacktail deer and Mule deer. The last hunt was pretty special as I saw him make a very long range shot with that Mannlicker outside of Ashwood, OR on nice mule deer buck. That was a great hunt as we both got bucks on that trip. Then there was a Blacktail deer hunt down by Falls City, OR, which I learned on that hunt was never to say, “There’s a buck”. As when ever that was said, a Blacktail never got shot! I have taken that forward in all of my hunting!

Dad also took me on my first deer hunt when I was in the 5th grade and not yet able to carry a rifle. The following year I took hunter safety.

“My first hunt that I went on with my dad was with Uncle Dave and his group of hunters, such as Uncle Harry, Uncle Monroe, Uncle Floyd, Jack Carroll, Danny Carroll and Bill Biggs (dad) to Egypt Wells, outside of Riley, Oregon. With the old 55 Studebaker loaded to hilt and trailer loaded also. Of course that group all tagged out on Mulie bucks up in the Silvies.”

In closing we also did a great deal of fishing and spent many trips up to Ollialie Lake near Mount Hood and many trips to the Metoluis River at Camp Sherman.

One last memory of how tough he was is during the gas shortages in the 80’s, he had the Chevron Station at the Memorial Coliseum on Broadway. Tough time with fights in getting gasoline for cars and all gas being allocated. Dad wore a hand gun (Colt 357 6″) on his side during the many months of this scam by the government and oil companies. He never got robbed or confronted at his place of business!

Thanks Dad for guiding me in the correct direction to the Right!

P.S. The Navy was ok also, giving responsibility in Life!

Commander Rod Briece U.S. Navy Retired now serving in GOD’s Navy!

Commander Rod Briece U.S. Navy Retired was a Believer, a Father, a Husband, a Leader, an Educator, and a Friend. Plus hunting and fishing was a passion for him in his off time.   In the later years Rod, found his grandson to be his new partner in the field.   That will surely be missed forever, but not forgotten for his grandson!

My name is Frank Biggs aka Frank Trumble when I first met Mr. Briece in 1969 at the Naval Security Group Activity in Imperial Beach, California.   He was a young Lt. Jg. Line Officer attached to Admin at the Naval Security Group Activity in Imperial Beach, California.   I was a young enlisted Petty Officer attached to a different Division in COMSEC.  I had heard that we had someone from Portland, Oregon at the site and I just had to meet him.   I was able to see Mr. Briece one day and found out that he love to duck hunt.  Well I knew all of the places to hunt ducks outside of San Diego, plus along the Mexican border.   I quickly invited him to duck hunt on my 80 hours off.   The hunt as an outing was great but no ducks, yet the day before I had jumped more than 500 ducks and geese in the marsh land between the Mexican and U.S. border.

I did not have much time left at that base, as I was going overseas.  I met Rod & Cheryl one day near Ream Field, Imperial Beach.   They had their two twin daughters Janel and Anne with them.  For some reason, that I can’t remember,  I was able to hold both of the girls, one in each arm. In reference to the above sentence, some years later like about 10 years I took my daughter Rebecca to the reserve center and Rod held her, she was about the same age in reference to the time I head Janel and Anne.   Ironic the circle of life and happenings.

It was some time later in 1972 that I was able to reconnect with Rod at the Naval Security Group Activity in Portland, OR.  It was a Reserve U.S. Naval Security Communications site at the reserve center doing active military work.   Rod later became my Commanding Officer for the unit I was attached to.   Great Leader of men and women!  I would have to say Commander Briece was hands on Officer.  At this point, I always refer him when on duty as Commander Briece!

Over the years I feel that Rod and I became great friends, nice thing about the reserves you can fraternize in civilian life.   While Rod was teaching Political Science at Mt Hood Community College, Rod helped me with projects with career at Burns Bros., Inc.

There is a great deal that I can tell you about Rod & my relationship over 40 years! I do have to mention that whenever I called Rod, Cheryl normally answer the phone with a great voice and always say I will get Rod for you and “how are you doing”!

During the summer months when Rod wasn’t having to do an Reserve Active Duty Training and the college was close you could find him working at Norm Thompson Outfitters, where he would be working fly fishing or gun section.   In those days Norm Thompson was the place for the best in hunting and fishing.   It is during that time frame that Rod met Jack O’ Connor, the legendary hunter who traveled the world was known as that man that shot the Winchester 270 for everything.   Rod acquired a Winchester Model 70 in the 338 Win. Mag caliber from Jack.   I was fortunate enough to see the rifle on an elk hunt with Rod.  That was Rod’s elk hunting rifle!

He guided me on my first Antelope hunt in Oregon, which was hunt of a lifetime and the meeting of new people. Later Rod introduced me to Wild Bill Campbell on a deer hunt outside of Pilot Rock, Oregon.  Wild Bill Campbell and I would become great friends over the passing years.

This was a great trip with Rod, my GMC truck working the hills and having 3 game plans. Boone & Crockett Pronghorn

Rod was always working on us Navy boys to come closer to God and he introduced me to Good Shepherd Church and the men’s group for early Morning Prayer on Tuesdays.

Then there was the summer that I was invited to the Good Shepherd Camp out at the Fairgrounds (Hunt Park) in Tgyh Valley, Oregon, bringing along my son and his buddy.  The boys camped outside in a tent and I had the luxury of Rod’s Camper.   The boys were able to fish and later we all went on an Exotic Sheep hunt with success.   That was the talk around the campfire that evening after the hunt!

I would have to put the biggest deal in my life when I was invited to the Sportsman’s Dinner at Good Shepherd.   It happen to be the time when Dennis Agajanian came and gave testimonial to all us that were there.   I was very enlightened and when Dennis Agajanian asks of those in the audience who was ready to come to the Lord. Stand and be known, touching Rod on the shoulder and doing so was of great feeling and the great feel of the chill when you touch the Lord.

I thank Rod for everything that he gave out to everyone he touched.   I am sure that Rod will continue on this new adventurer with Jesus! Rod you will be remembered by all of us in our Hearts my friend!   God Bless!

Archery Pronghorn – Antelope Hunting Techniques

I thought I would do some updating on this post since I did write it in 2011.  I am a firm believer in having the correct equipment and knowledge to keep legal while hunting.  The other benefit of having the following tool, is that you might be able to find a landowner that let you hunt. Most farmers have great feeling about Lopes when they grow grasses…

Everyone should have @onxhunt in Mobile and or Garmin Colored GPS with the #onxhunt chip.

The tool know where you are at all times, boundaries are important to know…

In my time I have done a great deal of scouting and researching of Pronghorn or Antelope as most call this great animal from the past in Oregon and the rest of the Western States, where they roam in hunt-able numbers.

2019 Thoughts: If you have time to scout even 1 day prior, get a game plan of glassing and glassing. Everyone should have at least an A, B and C plan. Glass from afar  and if possible from a rise. Lopes are habit creatures and will work the same water holes and areas.

For archery hunters in many of the Western States you have a chance to hunt every year for Antelope.  Where as with a rifle you might have to wait some 12-25 years to draw a tag, at least in the Oregon.  I have hunters in Oregon that are now hunting almost every year with the bow.   A  great challenge to hunt with the bow, but what a rush and accomplishment to harvest up close and personal.  You’ll find hunting with the bow for Antelope a great sport that you won’t be able to stop doing.   I have been told by my hunters that they have had the best experience hunting Antelope over anything else they have hunted in North America.  It could be that they see a lot of Antelope while hunting them.

Picture taken at 30 yards from a 500 yard stalk!

I one thing I do know after all these years and not even being in some of my old haunts for many years, is that Pronghorn are animals of habit from generation to generation.   They cover the same ground and do the same things from one generation to another.  Most of the land in which they live never changes.   There was one buck that my friends & hunters chased for about three years and never got.  I really wanted him for myself is what all thought.  He would be located in the same spot within a 1/4 mile and escape basically the same way.  His escape route was not one you could cover and he knew it.  Now if we ambushed him in his normal spot he could have been taken.  He was one of the biggest Antelope I ever hunted.  I did get one hunter on him at very close range with a standing broadside at 40 yards.  He missed the buck and the hunt was over for him!   He had told me that he was the greatest shot with bow and arrow!  A few years back I went back to a spot which I hunted and guided about 20 years ago.  The only thing that had changed is the B.L.M. put a solar power water pump on a water hole in one of my favorite spots.   Even the old ranchers sign was still there and he had been gone for a long time.  The sign had stated in so many words that you were crossing into his lands.  This happen to be B.L.M. that he leased, but did not own.  I have that sign now in my loft.

I once heard on a hunting program on cable that Pronghorn don’t jump through barbwire fences!  Well I have to tell you that they do got through the middle at times and not always under the bottom wire.   I have a blurred picture in of a buck Antelope jumping over a five strand fence!  YES I DO!

Ah! They do jump fences with ease!

I have seen mature bucks standing in the middle of a back country road in B.L.M., marking the road.  No, not by scratching but by urinating in the middle of road.   Once someone knows some of the peculiar habits of Antelope, you can use it to your advantage.   Such is the case a couple of years ago when I spot a group of Antelope in a 5 tag unit.  I wanted the picture of the buck and just knew he would go around the mountain and want to get back into the hole.  He did just that and my son asked how did you know?

I ambushed this buck as he came around the mountain!

I have taken a great deal of Antelope with the bow and all but a rifle kill has been from stalking.   A great deal of the bow hunters I know do wait on water, but you have to have patience.  One of my GPS Hunters sat for two (2) for more than 12 hours.  He as been successful two (2) years in a row.   I do love to stalk them and arrow them before they know I am there.  

This was stalked while at a waterhole and taken at 50 yards.

Antelope do lay in the sagebrush flats and with a lot of glassing from a vantage point you can find them and stalk within bow range easily.

I followed these bucks for some time and close the distance, wind to my face!

Many of friends think I am off the wall with some of my mannerisms when it comes to all types of hunting.  First off I would never relieve myself in an area that I hunt and I am going to have a wide stance so none of my scent is getting on my boots or pants. Then there is the issue with sunglasses, I will always wear sunglasses (favorite are Ray-Ban Wayfarer-easy to lift with bino’s with no bind) during the day and “Photo Grays” for the evening hunts.  I felt if the game, especially Antelope can’t see my eyes or movement then I could close the gap on them even easier once spotted.  I always wore a hat and a backpack with the spotting scope & tripod sticking out of the top.  It is what it is with habits and wearing the same pants on every hunt!  Terrible that it may be I wore blue jeans as my basic pants! Once in a while I will go full Camo, but that is on my son’s request.  It has never been about hiding from animals!

Good thing I had Top Secret Clearance on this shot! This picture was taken on a military missle site. This white buck was later taken out by a car as he crossed a highway.

Most experience hunters have there ways to hunt game, whether it is from stalking, waiting, ambush or just being lucky and walking into a shoot-able animal.  It is whatever works for you that makes the hunt!

William “Wild Bill” Campbell – A vintage of a man passes!

You have to read the last post to this story from Mike Willis!

A little update since the writing of this post!  Recently after all these years I have found that Diane Campbell, Wild “Bill” Campbell’s wife is still living on the ranch in Pilot Rock, Oregon!   06-09-2018. Diane put up with all of us that frequented the ranch!  One of the greatest places to ride horses, hike and hunt for pheasant hunt, elk and deer hunt!

                        This picture was donated by Linda Mathison Bill Campbell is on the left…

I had an email a while back from an old friend; well he is younger than me.   He had been on a Texas deer hunt with his kids on a friend’s ranch.   Mention about a dear friend that is no longer around and that the tradition of the hunt would change.  How true his words were to me that day!  Over the past 30+ years or more I have had the privilege of hunting a number of private ranches.  Some were rancher friends that I have met via hunting with someone else, met in the road near their place, through work and from knocking on doors.Relationships with ranchers change with the times and the conditions of life.This reading with me is about a rancher that I met during a deer hunt near Pilot Rock, Oregon that I was invited on from a Naval Officer that I first met when I was stationed at the Naval Security Group Activity in Imperial Beach, CA.  Rod Briece was from the Portland Metro area and was on his active duty obligation.  I took him on an unsuccessful duck hunt along the Tijuana border.   The day before there were more than a 1000 ducks and geese held up in tidal flats…?  This story about a rancher; he went by the name “Wild Bill Campbell”, a rancher that lived up on East Birch Creek outside of Pilot Rock, Oregon.  Bill Campbell was a Cattle Rancher, Horse Trader, Husband, Peacemaker, Hunter and mostly a Friend of mine.
As I said earlier I first met Bill on a deer hunt with Rod.   Rod was hunting with his usual deer hunting group.  I was the outsider invited to the hunt; I came ready to deer hunt prime private property on eastern Oregon Cattle & Horse ranch.
Bill’s ranch was along East Birch Creek and had boundaries south near Pearson Creek and the Umatilla National Forest.  There are many notorious places that are still thought of by the hunters or persons that roam the area.  Such places that might be alone the 4230 road such as Foggy Knob, Four Corners, Little Pearson Creek, California Gulch, Government 80, Sagebrush Flat, Dark Canyon, Merle Canyon, Tamarack Gulch, Cold Springs Canyon, Hascall Spring, Pole Mill Rd, and Spring Hollow just to name a few spots that are like having a GPS with waypoints when talking.Right from the get goes; I knew that I was going to like Bill a lot.  Bill looked like he came from out of the “Old West”; never saw him without a Single Action Revolver and or wearing suspenders.
On this hunt Bill gave me knowledge and taught me to be patient, go with the flow.   On one particular day I was riding with Bill, he would stop and talk with every other rancher or ranch hand he knew.  In my mind I am going is this ever going to get over with, it’s daylight out and I need to be hunting and not BS’n.   There had to be a big buck waiting for me in the timber.  Later I find out that with Bill talking with everyone, he is gaining knowledge on game and getting us permission to maybe get onto another rancher’s property…
Since that time I have learn to take time out during the mid-day and slow down. 
Bill was a man of many stories of past times.   Bill had a cabin up near Sagebrush Flats that all of us would jockey on the use of the cabin.   On the walls were written passages of days spent on the cattle trail moving cattle from the out of the mountains to the valley floor.  I remember one passage written by Bill when he was with his father-in-law, “the snow was more than three feet deep, with drifts over your head, wind blowing hard, 10 degrees out, horses tired and a pack of coyotes following their every movement”.  If one had foresight they would have taken pictures of these passages on the wall of the cabin.  I understand that the cabin is gone, as an outfitter bought the property some years back from Bill’s widow.  Being and old horse trader, or better yet a gun trader, I have always felt it to be a privilege to hunt someone’s property.  Not much on paying with “Green Backs”, but with something that every rancher might want to rat hole.  Has anyone every known a rancher that might not want a new rifle, possible good pair of bino’s, knives or how about a master case of 30-06 Remington 180 gr. cartridges.
Well Bill was always one that would want something new that he has never had in his gun cabinet.   Being able to get some items demo out to me or be able to pick up a new rifle for wholesale, I could not past up the opportunity to do this barter system.
We always had a place to stay, leave our horses, go anywhere, do anything, hot meal in the evening and even drive Bill’s truck up into the back country.  Bill would be ready to go on a hunt at a moments notice.   No one ever had to worry that he would not be ready.
His truck was never without a rifle, six shooter, knives or ammo.  On the Ready! 
The following are a couple of short thoughts and happenings with Bill Campbell.

Remembering when I had a small group of bro’s hunting with me, we were staying at Bill’s and Diane’s House.  One of my buddies Steve Pomp was staying thee also.  We all bunched in the living room.  Yelling all of sudden when Bill’s big black cat jumped up onto Steve’s face. Pitched dark… The object at the time went flying through the room.  Steve must have thought he was back in Vietnam… 

Oh!  Bill was a Reserve County Sheriff and would go out on any call.  One look at Bill and I think an outlaw would just put their hands up. One afternoon Bill and I had to go into town to the local market, we had just come out of the canyon above Bill’s main house.  We were packing iron on the hip.  Getting out of the truck I started to remove my holster and belt.  Bill quickly said “Frank no need to do that, we pack here”, so it is probably first and last time that I have walked into a store with handgun on he hip…  Looking at us would have most likely seemed like a picture from the past. 

Another time Bill had the county veterinarian come out and look at one of his horses that was sick.  The county vet., said that he would have to put the horse down, he felt the horse was contagious to the rest of the herd.  Bill slowing put his hand on his hip, of course where his 45 Colt was and look straight into the Vets. Eyes and said “I don’t think so Doc”.  The Vets eyes went to the size of golf balls and he left most hastily.

There was the time that Bill gave me a pink lariat for my Birthday on an early scouting trip in June.   Inside of the package was a set of chaps from the turn of the century and this pink lariat.  Bill, his wife Diane and Stick gave a really bad time to me on this gift.  It was given to me because I thought I was a macho cowboy from the valley…  Anyway I still have the lariat.  My lariat was always tied to my saddle, even when I was in the bottom of Hells Canyon. 

It reminded me of the great times I spent with “Wild Bill Campbell” at his ranch. One of the most memorable hunts that I had with Bill was a middle of the season deer hunt at this place.  Bill had dropped Ben and I off at the head of California Gulch for a two person deer drive.   Ben and I split up on the two walls of the canyon and worked our way down into the timber.  Ben was a great partner, when working canyons we seem to know were and what the other person was doing without ever seeing them. Anyway I had beat Ben to the bottom of the canyon and was working my way up the center into some down timber and grassy area.  All of a sudden I jump a large black bear that was sleeping.  The bear jumped up and was on top of a down tree broadside at 50 feet.  I had my 257 Weatherby at the time.   I quickly shoot into the boiler room of the bear, nothing happen, so I shoot again at the bear into the same spot.  The bear is off the tree and running.  I shoot twice again at the bear as it is moving left to right into the same spot but on the opposite side of the animal.   The big black bear expires in the creek bottom!  Now what I said to myself.   One has to remember that while shooting the last two rounds I had yelled up the canyon for Ben.   Ben came running down and thought that I had a small war going on.   To his surprise there was a bear laying dead in the creek and not a big buck.   In my mind I wanted to skin this bear and be able to have a life size mount done.  We could not budge the bear out of the creek as the creek had steep walls due steepness of walls from spring flooding.   We skinned the bear in the creek which took some time to do.  No we knew that Bill would want the bear meat, being an old mountain man.   Just getting ready to quarter the bear and we hear a truck coming to us down into the canyon.   Bill with his Blue and White Ford F250 pickup stopped at the edge of the creek wall.   You have to be kidding me, Bill drove to us.   Morale of this story, have patience, a rancher can get anywhere to pickup game. 

Sometime in 1987 Bill Campbell “Wild Bill” passed away in his favorite sitting chair in the living room.  I suppose he had a glass with good aged whiskey in it.   He had honor, give you the shirt off his back, lone you a weapon if short and he would open his home to you to stay.“Wild Bill” I hope you are still chasing elk and deer up in the clouds!depearsoncrk.jpg 

Elk were taken every year up at East Birch Creek.

Bwana Bubba aka Frank Biggs

Old Hunter Heads to Madison Butte…

Epitaph of David H. Pflegl ENMCPO U.S.N. Retired 

These are my words on the history and impact of ENMCPO David H. Pflegl U.S.N. Retired, who was my Uncle Dave on my mother’s side to me.

I would have to say in the early years of knowing my Uncle Dave that he was a tough bird and one never won an argument with him.   One would never want to cross Uncle Dave or you would have an understanding of old school.

I remember when my Grandmother Elsie would watch us down in the Sellwood area of Portland and Uncle Dave would come home from a hunt.  Always was successful in hunting and even fishing.   He lived upstairs in those days of her house, before he got he got remarried and moved out to Oregon City with purchase of Aero Acres up on Leland Rd.   The whole upper area of the attic was full of hunting and fishing gear, a kid could be mesmerized by it all.  Uncle Dave and Great Uncle Dave would do a lot of fishing, such as up in the Bull Run when it was legal.  I remember on fishing trip to the Willamette River for Spring Chinook up by the falls with Uncle Dave and Bill Biggs (dad).   Mom had packed me a lunch for the day, which included a banana.  Uncle Dave said “bananas are bad luck in a boat, get rid of it.”   We saw a lot of big Salmon jumping by the spillway, but we did not catch any Salmon.  I never went in a boat with Uncle Dave again.

Yep! Uncle Dave at that time had a 1937 Taylor Craft plane and later a PT-19 Fairchild, which I did get to up once before I went into the Navy.  I still remember the plate on the dash, that said do not do wing rolls in excess of 183 mph.   I do believe that Uncle Dave even raced the PT in a couple of air shows in his 50’s.

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PT 19 Fairchild Fixed Wing Trainer 

Uncle Dave gave a lot to everyone that he touches over the course of 85 years.   Uncle Dave would give you his shirt off is back, maybe even a transmission you need for your 1954 Ford that was in a car out on the airstrip.  He had 5 sons by two marriages.   There are 4 of them still around with David H. Pflegl (Butch) the oldest.

He taught all of his boys to be self sufficient and all them can twist a wrench and fix anything.  One thing for sure about Uncle Dave, that if you needed something fix, he could get it done no matter the size of it.

As for hunting and fishing he left that legacy also with most of his sons and a few nephews.  My first hunt that I went on with my dad was with Uncle Dave and his group of hunters, such as Uncle Harry, Uncle Monroe, Uncle Floyd, Jack Carroll, Danny Carroll and Bill Biggs (dad) to Egypt Wells, outside of Riley, Oregon.   With the old 55 Studebaker loaded to hilt and trailer loaded also.  Of course that group all tagged out on Mulie bucks up in the Silvies.

There is Boone & Crockett Blacktail that hangs in the log home in Oregon City up at Aero Acres to this day that was harvested in the Saddle Mountain area many years ago.   Uncle Dave love to hunt with bow and arrow on the Hwy 26 Summit to the coast in the swamp.  Just yesterday a customer came and we was talking about hunting the exact spot as Uncle Dave in the swamp with a rifle.   Both would camp in the rest area and hunt the area.

Uncle Dave and his group hunt a great deal of Oregon, such as the Snake River Canyon when you could get two deer, Madison Butte and Texas Butte outside of Heppner, Oregon, there was the summit of Hwy 26 at the coast for archery elk, there was Northside Oregon for deer.  I would even include the Steens Mtns., which he hunted later in life with the aid of his horse Brandy.   Many of my own hunting partners from the past would run into Uncle Dave in the field and make friends with him.  I could a report on Uncle Dave almost anytime from the field.

I remember in about 196- when Uncle Dave and Bill Biggs (dad) both bought Mannlicher Schoenauer Rifles with the Baush & Lomb 2.5 to 8 variable scopes on them in 30-06.
What great rifle to look and maybe get the chance to hunt with.  Double set triggers, with the wood out to the end of barrel and high comb cheek piece.  I have always thought I might get Dad’s someday…

As for Uncle Dave’s Navy experiences, I would say he was a WW II hero and was a Submariner during WW II and Korea. 

“FRANK I AM RESEARCHING MILITARY HISTORY.  DAD WAS ON THE USS CROAKER SS246 FROM COMMISSIONING TO DEC 1945.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08246.htm
USS POMFRET SS391 1950 TO 1952.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08391.htm
Google: WILLIAM ANDREW PFLEGL GO DOWN PAGE TO “ROSTER” SEE DAVID PFLEGL USS CROAKER SITE BY CLICKING ON ROSTER  NOTICE THE CROAKER AT GALVESTON SEPT 45.. READ THE REST THERE.  HE WAS ON THE USS POMFRET, WITH PRESIDENT (LTJG) JIMMY CARTER 1951 THRU 1952.  LOOKING FOR DENNIS A “SHIPWRECK” KELLY OF FOUNTAIN VIEW, CA WHO WAS ON THE POMFRET SAME TIME AS DAD IN KOREA.”  Butch

I remember seeing pictures of him coming off Boat to fight Japanese on the islands.  I still believe that Butch has a 6.5 Jap rifle that he brought back from a fight.  After the Korean War, Uncle Dave joined the Naval Reserves in Portland, OR.   The base on Swan Island had a Submarine there for him to teach on.
He spent over 40 years in the Navy and retired out as an E-9 and was well known in the Naval Community.  Funny I had old retired Submariners come into my work and they all knew him. It truly is a small world out there and one never knows who they run into from the past.
It was Uncle Dave that when I had 12 years in and having issues with work and Navy say “for no reason do you quit and give up on the Navy, work with just have to live with it.”  With that I got Burns Bros., Inc worked out with the help of my Commanding Officer and I stayed in for a total of 27 years.  The U.S. Navy nominated Jack H. Burns the CEO of Burns Bros., Inc. for Employer Recognition to the U.S. Naval Reserves and their duty.

Uncle Dave ashes will be spread out in the elk hunting country of Madison Butte outside of Heppner with Uncle Bobby (retired Colonel U.S. Air Force), plus one other person in their hunting group from the past who has yet to go.  Maybe he will live to be a 100, as he has made it to 90.  It seem the other or third person Uncle Floyd passed away also just recently within a month of Uncle Dave.   I talked with Floyd Jones Jr. or Spike as I have called him for almost 5 decades, he told me that Uncle Floyd had made comment after the passing of Dave, that “he has loss his hunting partner and what is the use to stay around”.   They hunted for more than 70 years together in the vast Oregon Territory from the Snake River Canyon to the Tillamook Head…

I do believe that one of the greatest Elk hunting trips was in 2001 when I was guiding Butch in the Grizzly Unit.  Uncle Dave, Aunt Lillian, Butch, and Uncle Dave’s two other sons Mike and Henry were there on top of Horse Heaven.   Uncle Dave had set up a huge camp with a squad tent the size of Grand Central Station.   I have my son along with us, I told Frankie; I want you to remember this time, as it will be a memory to last a long time.

God! Watch over Uncle Dave and may he stay in Elk Camp.  Frank

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1937 Taylorcraft 80hp

PT 19 2010 Present Day Condition-Henry will have to finish it!
One of the friends of Dave coming to Aeroacres
The Blue Super Cub is Henry’s new plane!
There was some 20 planes on the Deck!
One of the planes leaving!
Bill Biggs with Korean War Vet Hat!
Off and away!

August 8th, 2010 there was a fly in for Uncle Dave, or lets say a wake.   I found it very touching to see more than a 100 people, including family member.  Uncle Dave touch a great deal of people in his life.  There had to more than 20 planes there.  According to Aunt Lillian there were more planes on the hardeck than any other time.  I wish I had taken more picture, but I am sure that Dave’s son Butch will send me some to add.  I got to see family that I have not seen in many years…   Before long the team from the past will have all of their ashes up at Madison Butte.

May God watch over Uncle Dave…